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| Tim Tebow; Chapter 2; NY Jets Begins Tonight | |
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| Cal | Aug 10 2012, 05:50 PM Post #1 |
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The Broncos season last year was the second most amazing thing I've ever seen in sports (first was Eli Mannings final drive agaisnt the undefeated Pats in the superbowl 5-6 years ago). I don't care if that season was a fluke. I saw soem of the most amzing things in football I've ever seen. His season: I don't believe in God, at least not a deity in his way. Doesn't matter though, he's a great person and someone who did what everyone said he couldn't. I wish him and the Jets a good season! He's an inspiration (at least watch this last video) Edited by Cal, Aug 10 2012, 07:01 PM.
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| + Rebel X | Oct 5 2012, 04:30 AM Post #2 |
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He might get his opportunity soon at this rate. I mean Jets are 2-2 so Im not sure why they are all freakin out but when you lose Revis & Holmes its tough to see your season being so successful then again that's why you have rookies to step up. This is going to be interesting. Alot of comparisons have been made with the broncos last year before Tebow & jets so this year with sanchez. The numbers say that this is just like the situation last year & that Tebow could come in & put the team in a better position like he has in the past. While I think Tebows ability to have teams rally for him & believe in him to win & get better I think you have one big difference in these Jets than you had in denver. That being the running game. Greene, Powell are not premiere backs & they don't even have the experience to be. If LT was still playing I might believe that Hey maybe Tim can give this team a big change in atmosphere & get them some wins BUT not with that run game. Broncos had & still have McGahee who has been a start & a very good imo before he came to the Broncos, that along with Moreno in the back was great for Tim & the broncos last year. I cant see Tebow repeating what hes done or even coming close with Greene as the back. |
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| Pookie | Oct 5 2012, 02:06 PM Post #3 |
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I can't believe this is being debated in the NY Jets team. No wonder they always...never mind. If the Jets start Tebow, I hope they get botched just like they deserve it for putting him in. Sanchez makes some bad decisions, but overall he is a good QB. Sure, Tim Tebow will probably get some wins under his belt because of his unorthodox play style. There is no doubt about that. However, teams will catch up and be smart after awhile. If he wants to make it as a qb, he has to re learn everything. His shoulder will probably give out if he continues to throw like he does. Oh and not to mention the very reason the Jets are doing bad is because they ruin Sanchez's flow by bringing Tebow in. Flow for a QB is extremely important. Did you ever see Brett Favre or Tom Brady get replaced by the backup qb during critical times? Fancy plays just suck and never work. Edited by Pookie, Oct 5 2012, 02:07 PM.
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| + Rebel X | Nov 15 2012, 08:12 PM Post #4 |
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So can Tim Tebow do anything for the Jets at 3-6 |
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| Fulgore | Nov 15 2012, 08:31 PM Post #5 |
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if they put him in as starter |
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| Pookie | Nov 16 2012, 12:27 AM Post #6 |
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How is Tim Tebow going to do anything? The offensive line for the Jets is horrid. He has a slow release. The only thing I could see him doing better is probably escaping the defensive teams pass rush. Other then that, he will likely do worse. Also, the Jets need to think for their future. If they sit Sanchez right now, they may not be able to trade him for a good price. |
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| Cal | Nov 16 2012, 12:36 AM Post #7 |
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That's what the Broncos said, then they played him and went 8-4 and won a playoff game. Sanchez is trash, give a guy with a winning record a chance. |
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| Pookie | Nov 16 2012, 12:44 AM Post #8 |
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How is Sanchez trash? If Sanches goes to another team, he'd likely do well. The offensive line is trash. |
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| Cal | Nov 16 2012, 01:36 AM Post #9 |
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I don't know the 2nd worst efficiency as QB in the league might show that lol
Uh, NFL has them ranked at around #10 in the NFL. Sanchez gets sacked and hit less than over half starting QBs and their power rank is in the top 5. So, not their fault their QB is trash. http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&role=TM&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=2&archive=false&d-447263-p=1&qualified=true&d-447263-s=PASSING_SACKS_ALLOWED Granted, it's difficult to rank a whole OL considering it's based mainly on running, but still it at least proves that Sanchez is trash when compared to others. For example they rank Denver at the bottom, but that's not because they suck, it's because Peyton throws the ball a lot. Edited by Cal, Nov 16 2012, 01:44 AM.
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| Pookie | Nov 16 2012, 02:11 AM Post #10 |
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Sanchez has only been in the league three/four years. He had Rex Ryan saying they would win the Superbowl. He was put with a ton of pressure on his shoulder as a young quarterback. Some people can't handle the pressure in NY, and Rex Ryan only made it worse. Granted, Sanchez had some good features on his team, but I don't blame him at all for his bad playing. As far as talent is concerned, he has it. If he goes to another team, he will do better and do well. When I watch him play, he makes smart choices for the most part. He may not be hit a lot, but he is constantly moving around to escape the pass rush. It is only because he throws it out of bounds that he isn't sacked as many times as he should be. wikipedia source
Edit: Adding Tim Tebow as a back up, only added to Sanchez's pressure. If anything, blame the Jets franchise for being stupid. Edited by Pookie, Nov 16 2012, 02:17 AM.
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| Cal | Nov 16 2012, 02:57 AM Post #11 |
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So, now the argument shifts from bad OL to he has too much pressure? Yeah, that's true because everyone in major markets have that pressure. It doesn't change the facts though, he's not that good, at all. I would happily send him to another team if I were NY whether or not I wanted to start Tebow. He's not a franchise QB and even though we're talking about all this pressure, remember last year when the Jets locker room went off and said he was lazy, didn't try hard enough, and was a sucky leader? He still is those things, just now with a worse performance. Edited by Cal, Nov 16 2012, 02:57 AM.
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| Noir | Nov 16 2012, 04:22 AM Post #12 |
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They'll ride Sanchez out till the end of the year and then draft a QB in the first round. Geno Smith maybe? I can see him being successful in that scheme if they twerk it a little bit. Smash with Shonn and let Geno pick apart the D with intermediate routes on 3rd down. They have some talented guys in the slot there. |
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| Pookie | Nov 16 2012, 04:23 AM Post #13 |
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You basically said Sanchez is trash. I am giving you reasons as to why he is performing under his expectations. I am bringing more reasons as to why Sanchez is a good QB, but is not playing to his performance level. They both apply in this conversation. His Offensive Line sucks. He has to move around outside the pocket often to get a good throw. Just because he isn't hit doesn't mean he isn't pressured. Not to mention, I saw quite a few drop balls from his receivers at key times. Please, those comments that he is lazy, not a good leader, etc. Tiki Barber said the same thing about Eli Manning when he had no right too. I've heard it before with Eli Manning which is why I don't buy it with Sanchez. Tim Tebow isn't any better. They brought him in to bring publicity and make money. I guess that is a good thing if you want to make money, but what does that do for your supposed "franchise" quarterback? It doesn't do anything, but put more pressure on him. Edited by Pookie, Nov 16 2012, 04:25 AM.
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| Cal | Nov 16 2012, 01:20 PM Post #14 |
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Been over it his OL IS NOT that bad. At least I'm providing actual stats... He has pressure, big deal he needs to perform. I'm a huge Eli Manning fan but I doubt he's a great leader. Doesn't change the fact that he's elite though. They're 3-6, by all means if you want to play a horrible QB go for it. I would rather try something new with a proven winner. |
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| Pookie | Nov 16 2012, 02:07 PM Post #15 |
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Michael Strahan said Eli Manning was a good leader so it must be true right? I'm sure when people were recruiting Tom Brady, they went specifically for stats too. He did have two great seasons in College which I admit, but his success wasn't solely based on "numbers." He worked hard to get better. I don't like just basing information on someone's "stats" only. I go by how they play in a game. Stats are just numbers. I played sports myself. It annoyed me to no end when someone used stats as a way to measure how someone is playing. Stats aren't everything in a game. Take a look at Randy Moss' stats on the 49ers. He must really suck when he only has 2 TD's of the season and 254 yards halfway though. I mean he isn't a HOF or anything. He doesn't get thrown to or triple covered or anything either. http://www.49ers.com/team/roster/Randy-Moss/e2a6d6ec-fbed-4da5-ba9b-7ba47669e682 Okay, take a shot at using Tim Tebow. See where that gets you. He won't do any better. Edited by Pookie, Nov 16 2012, 02:11 PM.
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